On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:24 PM, bc100400550 Sabahat Butt <bc100400550@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
thats true bro..--On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM, mc080406058 Nawaz Ismail <mc080406058@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
From Nawaz Ismail
Me ne Ye Sari discussion parhi hai. Me itna ilm to nai rakhta pr kuch
chezain add krna chahoga. Pehli baat to ye k Jo rules Manufacturer
(Allah) ne hamay day dye hai, they are ultimate and wise. Dunya me koi
aesi aqal wala to hai nai jo in rules se zayada behtar kuch chezain
bna skay. Dusri bat ager ap koi khana bnaye aur usay Khula (open)
bartan me rakh day to kya hoga us pay Makhya baith jaengi. Ager cover
kr k rkhengay to koi gandi chez un par nai baith skegi. Yahi haal
Hijaab ka hai. if Muslim women covers themselves through proper hijaab
its better for them and not for others.Shukraya.
Ager kisi bat me ksi ka ikhtalaf ho then I Shall Appreciate proper discussion
Nawaz Ismail
MBA fianance
Junior Manager Accounts
On 3/13/12, mc080405881 Waqas Akbar <mc080405881@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
> Keep it up ...by CHOICE make it perfect
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:42 PM, bc090200684 Munazzah Mehak Anjum
> <bc090200684@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>
>> :) bhai mai khud bhi naqab krti hoon... my family dont abide me for it but
>> its my own choice... as i have to travel in bus alone so i prefers it...
>> but jb mai family k sath apni conveyance mai hoon ya phir koi occasions
>> hoon tu naqab nahi krti... for me naqab is a security... if m going to a
>> secure place thn i dont veil... i dont know whether my thinking is ryt or
>> wrong abt it... n for the clarification i asked this question...
>> thanks for ur detailed reply JazakAllah :)
>>
>> On 12 March 2012 14:50, mc080405881 Waqas Akbar <mc080405881@vu.edu.pk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It will be much better, if any female use to wear naqab reply you, but as
>>> u asked from guys ......It often occurs that many of our sisters in Islam
>>> are not properly encouraged to use of Hijab, once they begin to observe
>>> the requirements of Hijab. It may be that a sister has been obliged to
>>> wear the Hijab without truly pondering over its superiority.
>>>
>>> Perhaps she has reached the age of puberty and her parents have
>>> instructed her to wear it. Perhaps she has recently accepted Islam and
>>> her close companions have told her of its obligation. Alternatively,
>>> perhaps her husband has commanded her to wear Hijab.
>>>
>>> A sister who does not truly know the superiority of Hijab will always
>>> remain envious of disbelieving women. Why? Because they observe these
>>> misguided disbelievers attempting to look beautiful for all to see.
>>> Hence, the Muslim woman then compares herself to that woman which causes
>>> her to feel ashamed of her own Hijab.
>>>
>>>
>>> Therefore, what follows is a reminder for my sisters in Islam. It is a
>>> reminder of the true status of these so-called beautiful women. It is a
>>> reminder of the excellence of the women who wear Hijab.
>>>
>>> Excellent Qualities of Those who Wear Hijab:
>>>
>>> It is well known that the Muslim woman is a creature of modesty. Allah
>>> loves for our Muslim women to be shielded by their Hijab. It is their
>>> outer protection from the decadence of this life.
>>>
>>> Allah's Messenger (sallallahu`alayhi wa sallam) said ,
>>>
>>> said: "Allah is modest and covering. He loves modesty and privacy." [Abu
>>> Daawood, An-Nasaa'i Al-Bayhaqi, Ahmad].
>>>
>>> Thus, as modesty is a quality that is loved by Allah, our sisters must
>>> take comfort in knowing that they are modest and that they are not like
>>> those women who show themselves off to the world. Such women will not be
>>> shielded from Allah's Wramth.
>>>
>>> Allah's Messenger (sallallahu`alayhi wa sallam) said:
>>>
>>> "Any woman who takes off her clothes in other than her husband's home,
>>> has broken Allah's shield upon her." [Abu Daawood and At-Tirmithi)
>>>
>>> Therefore, we see that the Hijab of the Muslim woman is indeed part of
>>> modesty. Modesty accompanies Eemaan (faith). That is why Allah's
>>> Messenger (sallallahu`alayhi wa sallam)
>>>
>>> said: "Modesty is part of Eemaan and Eemaan is in Paradise."
>>> [At-Tirmithi]. Also: "Modesty and Eemaan are companions, when one goes
>>> away the other one goes away." [Al-Haakim and others]
>>>
>>> The Muslim women must know that the disbelieving women who beautify
>>> themselves for the world to see possess no modesty, thus, they are void
>>> of any Eemaan. Instead of looking to the latest fashion models for
>>> guidance, you must look to the wives of the Prophet (sallallahu`alayhi wa
>>> sallam).
>>>
>>> Look at the regard for modesty that our mother, 'Aa'ishah possessed even
>>> in the presence of the deceased;
>>>
>>> she said: "I used to enter the room where the Messenger of Allah and my
>>> father (Abu Bakr) were later buried in without having my garment on me,
>>> saying it is only my husband and my father. But when 'Umar bin
>>> al-Khattaab was later buried in (the same place), I did not enter the
>>> room except that I had my garment on being shy from 'Umar."
>>>
>>> It can be quite difficult for the Muslim woman to go out wearing Hijab in
>>> a society that mocks and torments her. Indeed, she may feel strange and
>>> out of place. However, if she knows the status of those who are mocked by
>>> the disbelievers, then she would continue to wear her Hijab with dignity.
>>>
>>>
>>> Allah Says in His Book (what means):
>>>
>>> "Verily! The criminals used to laugh at those who believed. And whenever
>>> they passed them, used to wink at one another. And when they returned to
>>> their own people, they would return jesting. When they saw them, they
>>> said:
>>>
>>> 'These have indeed gone astray!' But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not
>>> been sent as watchers over them (the believers). But on this Day those
>>> who believe will laugh at the disbelievers. On (high) thrones, looking
>>> (at all things). Are not the disbelievers paid (fully) for what they used
>>> to do?" [Quran 83:29-36]
>>>
>>> Allah's Words should serve as a support for you my dear sister. Also,
>>> take comfort in being a stranger among these lewd and sinful women.
>>> Allah's Messenger (sallallahu`alayhi wa sallam) said (what means):
>>>
>>> "Islam began as something strange, and it would revert to its (old
>>> position) of being strange, so good news is for the strangers." [Muslim]
>>>
>>> The Characteristics of the Exposed Women:
>>> Instead of practicing the Hijab (covering), the disbelieving women expose
>>> themselves, making a dazzling display of themselves for others. Such a
>>> display is an attribute of Ignorance of the Orders of ALLAH.
>>>
>>> Allah Says in His Book (what means):
>>>
>>> "And stay in your houses and do not display yourselves as you used to
>>> during the times of ignorance." [Quran 33:33]
>>>
>>> Allah's Messenger (sallallahu`alayhi wa sallam) said:
>>>
>>> "The best of your women is the affectionate, the fertile, the comforting,
>>> the agreeable — if they fear Allah. The most evil of your women are those
>>> who expose and display themselves, and those who strut (to show off) and
>>> they are the hypocrites. Those who enter al-Jannah (the Paradise) are
>>> like the red beaked crow." [Al-Bayhaqi].
>>>
>>> The simile of the red-beaked crow is to show that those who enter
>>> Paradise will be as rare as this kind crow is rare.
>>>
>>> We see from the above Aayah and Hadeeth that displaying oneself is indeed
>>> unlawful. Further, it is a quality of the most evil of women! Therefore,
>>> do not be envious of the disbelieving women. They only have this life to
>>> enjoy, while the believing women will have Paradise.
>>>
>>> There is nothing in your Hijab to be ashamed of, as it is the garment of
>>> the righteous and pious female worshippers of Allah. Are you shamed that
>>> you worship Allah,that why you avoid the use of HIJAB.
>>>
>>> In order to truly show you how evil those women who expose themselves
>>> are, let us ponder over the following statement of Allah's Messenger
>>> (sallallahu`alayhi wa sallam):
>>>
>>> "Of the people of Hell there are two whom I have never seen, the one
>>> possessing whips like the tail of an ox and they flog people with them.
>>> The second one, women who would be naked in spite of their being dressed,
>>> who are seduced (to wrong paths) and seduce others. Their hair is high
>>> like the humps of the camel. These women would not enter Paradise, nor
>>> will they smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be sensed from
>>> such and such a distance." [Muslim]
>>>
>>> These women who expose themselves are common among us today. These are
>>> women that even the Prophet did not see! Look around you and you will see
>>> those women who are clothed but naked! Look at the hairstyles of the
>>> women who expose themselves — are they not high like the camel's hump?
>>>
>>> Perhaps we are the first generation since the time of Aadam to witness
>>> such women. If one ponders over photos taken thirty to fifty years ago,
>>> one will see that the disbelieving women did not expose themselves in the
>>> manner that their offspring do today! These women are among the people of
>>> the Fire!
>>>
>>> Thus, how can you envy them?
>>>
>>> Such lewd women will not even smell the fragrance of Paradise; so our
>>> women must avoid their path.
>>>
>>> Another lesson from the above hadeeth is that it confirms that what the
>>> Prophet , came with is indeed the truth! This is a prophecy that has come
>>> to pass in front of our very eyes. Hence, will we continue to envy these
>>> evil women, or should we be grateful to our Lord for the Hijab, which
>>> brings modesty, which leads to Paradise?
>>>
>>> To sum up, the Muslim woman should abandon all of the ways of the exposed
>>> women, and adopt the ways of those who are modest through their love and
>>> practice of the proper Islamic Hijab.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are few sisters,missguided by satan, satan force them to argue with
>>> peoples.
>>> Why Men not using Hijab ?
>>> why they are not pointed ?
>>> why they are not blammed ?
>>> by using Hijab,you are not opperessed,Infact its security for Diamonds.
>>>
>>>
>>> as Ex: If you have diamond,will you show to peoples,will you keep without
>>> security,No……you will put in secure placed,in lockers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Muslim womens(you) are like diamonds,even more important than diamond.
>>> you are "The hidden precious pearls/gems" that Allaah has created,
>>> al'hamdulillaah and Hijab/Naqab is just to secure you from evils,Its not
>>> oppressing you,It clearly shows that Muslim women have much more value
>>> and respect…than the womens who show off there beauty.
>>> Few sisters says they love Allah and Prophet Muhammad,but when it comes
>>> to HIJAB.
>>> Why they forget his orders.
>>> Remember the words of Allah,for those who Ignore his commands :
>>> But whosoever turns away from My reminder (i.e. neither believes in the
>>> Qur'ān nor acts upon its teachings) verily for him is a life of hardship
>>> and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection. [Soorah Tā Hā
>>> 20:124]
>>> .
>>> Hope its carrying some answer to your quesiton
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:40 PM, bc090200684 Munazzah Mehak Anjum
>>> <bc090200684@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> guyz tell me one thing,,,, i need little info on this topic... Naqab ki
>>>> kia ehmiyut hai??... m not asking about Hijab or abaya here... m
>>>> specifically asking for fully covering face...
>>>>
>>>> On 9 March 2012 01:34, Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> MashaALLAH............ALLAH Pak aap ko mazeed barkat day.........Ameen
>>>>>
>>>>> JazakALLAH khair Sister...........[?][?][?]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM, mc100206625 Mahreen Younas
>>>>> <mc100206625@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to share something about HIJAAB. i m doing job as Program
>>>>>> manger in University . And u cant imagine every one do appreciate me
>>>>>> and every resource person gives respect me. And i do attend all dinner
>>>>>> lunch trip with mine abbya . Nobody dislike me .
>>>>>> Actully confidence is too much important for wearing gown. My dear all
>>>>>> sisters plz be confident , be muslims and ALHAMDLILHA my designation
>>>>>> is too much high. Shaitan appear and will stop u from differnt angls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:09 AM, bc110200682 Nadeem Ul Hassan
>>>>>> <bc110200682@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list has been compiled after research and is not intended to
>>>>>>> offend or insult anyone. After reading them it is possible to reach
>>>>>>> ones own conclusions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Friends will reject me: The people I hang around with and really
>>>>>>> tight with none of them wear hijab/jilbaab and they take the mickey
>>>>>>> out of those that do. Especially the hijabies who check out boys and
>>>>>>> do dirty dancing at college.uni parties. Names like fundies, molvies,
>>>>>>> hypocrites and they cover cause they are ugly. If I wear the hijab
>>>>>>> then I will lose all my friends and have the piss taken out of me as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Harm my career: I worked my arse of to get where I am now in my
>>>>>>> career. I got a big salary, status and I enjoy the respect I get from
>>>>>>> colleagues and community. I can't risk all that for a piece of cloth,
>>>>>>> besides I would look weird in board meetings and work parties in the
>>>>>>> pub and nightclubs. InshAllah when I get married in my 30s and have
>>>>>>> kids in my mid 30s, I'll cover as I'm supposed to then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. My family are westernised: No one in my family wears hijab, even
>>>>>>> my grandmother wears bright coloured stylish clothes. If I were to
>>>>>>> wear the hijab I'd feel strange cause we have family gatherings where
>>>>>>> all the women dress in sarees and other revealing clothes and at our
>>>>>>> weddings we have a DJ playing bhangra music and we all dance to
>>>>>>> bollywood tunes, even my grandmother does a few funky moves on the
>>>>>>> dance floor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Non-Muslims will stare: I've noticed since 9/11 that non-Muslims
>>>>>>> regard anyone who looks like a Muslim as a potential terrorist and by
>>>>>>> wearing the hijab I would attract attention. By wearing western
>>>>>>> clothes I get away with non-Muslims thinking I'm a Hindu, Sikh or
>>>>>>> moderate non-practicing Muslim. I've even had white guys trying to
>>>>>>> chat me up cause they think I'm up for it based on the tight western
>>>>>>> clothing that I wear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. I'm still young: I'm only 27 I've got my whole life ahead of me.
>>>>>>> I'm still enjoying life, you know what I mean, flirting with
>>>>>>> guys,clubbing, hanging out with mates in shopping centres. When I get
>>>>>>> married and have kids I'll wear it then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. I wont get attention from guys: I love the attention I get from
>>>>>>> guys and the way they look at me you know what I mean. I'm checking
>>>>>>> out 3 guys at the moment. Ones my age, ones older and one is older
>>>>>>> and married. I guess we all need a toy boy as well as a father figure
>>>>>>> /sugar daddy. I'll choose one of them, although I've got a few my age
>>>>>>> from uni as back up. After I've lived my life to the max and played
>>>>>>> the field and settled down then I might consider wearing it, even
>>>>>>> cover my face cause I don't wanna meet any of my ex's now do I? Shoot
>>>>>>> 2 birds with 1 stone, appear pious and avoid hassle with former
>>>>>>> boyfriends , great idea, hijab. Jilbab and niqab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7. I dress modestly: I wear loose modest clothes which cover and hide
>>>>>>> my curves, I know my hair is exposed but at least I'm more or less
>>>>>>> covered, better than a lot of girls/women who dress like tarts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8. People will think I'm a fundamentalist: There is so much in the
>>>>>>> media nowadays about Muslims getting radicalised and rejecting
>>>>>>> western values and becoming fundamentalists. I just don't want people
>>>>>>> to think that I am one also. Although I know that the west and its
>>>>>>> values are decadent and filthy, I don't think it's wise to express
>>>>>>> this. I pray and fast etc, I don't need to wear Islamic clothing to
>>>>>>> be a good Muslim coz Islam is in my heart.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9. I worked hard to get this figure: After going to the gym and
>>>>>>> Pilates fro 6 months I've finally achieved the hourglass figure which
>>>>>>> men find attractive. I enjoy the attention I get and feel attractive.
>>>>>>> By wearing the hijab/jilbaab I would just be an ordinary woman in the
>>>>>>> eyes of men and only religious types with big beards would be
>>>>>>> interested in me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10. When in Rome do as the Romans: We live in the UK and not in a
>>>>>>> Muslim country so why follow Islam rigidly? Also compared to
>>>>>>> non-Muslim women who practically walk around naked I dress and behave
>>>>>>> quite respectably. Whenever I visit back home I wear different
>>>>>>> clothes cause I don't want people to think bad of me and my family.
>>>>>>> One day in my 60's after I have lived my life I will go to hajj and
>>>>>>> then become the perfect Muslimah, not now cause I believe "when in
>>>>>>> Rome do as the Romans".
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██████████████████ Basic Group Rules ███████████████████
Immoral & Rudish talk, Earning program links, Cell number for friendship purpose, Websites/Groups Links, Adult contents, Criticize-able Islamic stuff, Spreading disruption, Spamming are strictly prohibited and banned in group.
█████████████████████████████████████████████████
Follow these detailed Group Rules, otherwise you will be banned at any time.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJxA8x3_U7C1lRc0EXfLrJpco4A1XkB1vDxOTqOd3Jg/edit?hl=en&authkey=CNDy9tkJ
Group Email Address:
Attock-VU-Group@Googlegroups.Com
Join group by sending a blank email from University ID at:
Attock-VU-Group+Subscribe@Googlegroups.Com
Join us at http://www.Vusr.net for Papers,Assignments,GDBs, Quizes.
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██████████████████ Basic Group Rules ███████████████████
Immoral & Rudish talk, Earning program links, Cell number for friendship purpose, Websites/Groups Links, Adult contents, Criticize-able Islamic stuff, Spreading disruption, Spamming are strictly prohibited and banned in group.
█████████████████████████████████████████████████
Follow these detailed Group Rules, otherwise you will be banned at any time.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJxA8x3_U7C1lRc0EXfLrJpco4A1XkB1vDxOTqOd3Jg/edit?hl=en&authkey=CNDy9tkJ
Group Email Address:
Attock-VU-Group@Googlegroups.Com
Join group by sending a blank email from University ID at:
Attock-VU-Group+Subscribe@Googlegroups.Com
Join us at http://www.Vusr.net for Papers,Assignments,GDBs, Quizes.
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