VU Study: Aug 26, 2011

Friday, August 26, 2011

Re: (Attock VU Group) my email to Registrar and Rector about VU

Well, I am not sure about the fact whether MBA executives are included in Scholorship or not. Anyhow, remember that in only need based scholarships, students apply for scholarships. For merit based scholarships, VU prepares merit list at the start of each semester. Top 3 positions of each batch get scholarship provided that we have covered all subjects in that semester and didn't drop any subject.

Since your CGPA is 3.95, therefore, I think and hope that you are in top 3 in your batch of MBA. If this is the case, then you will definitely get scholarship.

Hope this helps

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:41 AM, mc110201810 Ahmad Hassan <mc110201810@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Umair , Can u please guide me to get scholarship as I have scored 3.95 CGPA MBA-Exec First semester. I have heard from some one that MBA Exec is not included in Merit Based scholarship.

Regards,

Ahmad Hassan

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
sachi muchi dear....

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> wrote:
ohhhh...............Really............

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:

Gmail kitni taraqi kar gayi hai....

Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> ki 7 din pehlay send ki gayi email mujhay aaj mosool ho rahi hai

Gmail Rocks

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> wrote:

Wa'Alaikummussalam..............

yeh hui na sahi baat aur sahi tareeqa........................:)

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
Assalam o Alaikum

Dear friends, main nay rector sab aur Registrar sab ko yeh email ki hai VU ki degree value k hawalay se.. aap bhi parhain aur comment karain.... reply aaya tou aap se zaroor share karoon ga...ok..

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Assalam o Alaikum

Respected Sir,

Now-a-days, we frequently hear that market value of VU Degree is low and many organizations don't offer jobs to VU students, don't give internship to VU students, etc. etc.

Different people will give different reasons about why VU degree value is low. As a student who has studied last 8 semesters in VU, I have my own thoughts why VU degree value is low. In fact, it was not low, but suddenly, due to some change in VU system, degree value got low. I will explain here what that change was.

Sir, up to Spring 2008 semester, VU had long paper pattern in which 85-90% questions were long questions and only 10-15% questions were MCQs based. However, when in Fall 2008 semester, the number of students who took admission in VU increased too much, VU changed the paper pattern. Now, the question arises why paper pattern was changed when long questions paper pattern was adopted by VU ever since its existence. I think, that VU exam department thought that it will be almost impossible to check such a large number of assignments, mid-term exams and final term exams with existing staff. Therefore, we change the paper pattern to MCQs. MCQs will be checked by computer and this way we will be able to serve the students. This change in exam pattern lead to the degradation of VU Degree. Now-a-days, we see that most students prepare MCQs from past papers and as a result pass the exam without or with much less effort. Even, many students just attend MCQs both in mid-term and final term exam and still manage to pass the subject (They don't do it with all subjects, just in some selective subject in which they feel too much difficulty).

Sir! Everyone knows that when there was long questions paper pattern, no one used to say that VU degree has low value. We did not hear any single such instance in which a VU student was said while applying for job that we don't accept VU Degree. We never heard of any instance in which some organization denied a VU student for internship. But now-a-days, we frequently hear about such instances.

MCQs paper pattern may be good with some theoretical subjects BUT MCQs paper pattern can never ever be a good paper pattern for subjects in which we need to solve numerical questions like Accounting, Statistics, Mathematics, Programming and many others. No one can become a better Accountant, Statistician, Mathematician or a programmer by just solving MCQs.

Sir, we see that admissions in VU are lowering from past two or three semesters. When, VU used to provide quality education then admissions in every semester were increasing. Now, they are lowering which indicates that VU education system has some fault in it.

Sir, I want to see VU at the same place where it was when there was long questions paper pattern An era when no one used to degrade VU. No one used to say that we don't offer jobs to VU students, no one used to say that we don't provide internship to VU students and so on.

Sir! MCQs paper pattern have some many faults in it. I mentioned some of them above. With MCQs paper pattern, many students get marks that they actually don't deserve. We even see that those students pass in exam that even don't know ABC of some particular subject in which they appear. They do it by just solving MCQs.

Sir, when there was long paper pattern, only those students passed the exam that used to study, but very sad to say that with this MCQs paper pattern, those students also pass who do not study.

Sir! You, me as well as every VU student will love to see VU's degree value much higher than what it is today. To do so, I think, VU should change the paper pattern to long questions in the upcoming semester. Not only change the paper pattern, but also change the mode of exam and exam timing. In long questions paper pattern, mid-term online exams was 1:30 hrs, final term 2:30 hrs, mid-term offline exam 1 hr, final-term offline exam 2:00 hrs.

Sir, I think that when No. of students increased too much in Fall 2008 semseter. Wrong step was taken by VU to change the exam paper. VU should have increased number of staff at that point.

Sir, it is my humble request to you to understand the reasons due to which VU's degree has low market value and then try your best to remove those reasons so that we can again see VU at the place where it was 3 or 4 years back when no one degraded VU.

Your Student

Muhammad Umair

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Re: (Attock VU Group) haamari darlo styloooo khoo gai hia ................

kiya hia?
mujay b batao mamla?
yah amir liyaqat wahi ahi na jo ary pay aik show kurraa hia
jo sari evning chulta rahta hia

mukta hi nahi hai

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On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Mubashar Bhutta <mc100204933@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

han mera pass Dr amir liaqat ki video hai but wo kisi ko dekhana ka qabil nai . i was shocked to see amir liaqat in that face

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Re: (Attock VU Group) my email to Registrar and Rector about VU

Umair , Can u please guide me to get scholarship as I have scored 3.95 CGPA MBA-Exec First semester. I have heard from some one that MBA Exec is not included in Merit Based scholarship.

Regards,

Ahmad Hassan

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:

sachi muchi dear....

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> wrote:
ohhhh...............Really............

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:

Gmail kitni taraqi kar gayi hai....

Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> ki 7 din pehlay send ki gayi email mujhay aaj mosool ho rahi hai

Gmail Rocks

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Shahzad Sadiq <lushahz@gmail.com> wrote:

Wa'Alaikummussalam..............

yeh hui na sahi baat aur sahi tareeqa........................:)

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
Assalam o Alaikum

Dear friends, main nay rector sab aur Registrar sab ko yeh email ki hai VU ki degree value k hawalay se.. aap bhi parhain aur comment karain.... reply aaya tou aap se zaroor share karoon ga...ok..

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Assalam o Alaikum

Respected Sir,

Now-a-days, we frequently hear that market value of VU Degree is low and many organizations don't offer jobs to VU students, don't give internship to VU students, etc. etc.

Different people will give different reasons about why VU degree value is low. As a student who has studied last 8 semesters in VU, I have my own thoughts why VU degree value is low. In fact, it was not low, but suddenly, due to some change in VU system, degree value got low. I will explain here what that change was.

Sir, up to Spring 2008 semester, VU had long paper pattern in which 85-90% questions were long questions and only 10-15% questions were MCQs based. However, when in Fall 2008 semester, the number of students who took admission in VU increased too much, VU changed the paper pattern. Now, the question arises why paper pattern was changed when long questions paper pattern was adopted by VU ever since its existence. I think, that VU exam department thought that it will be almost impossible to check such a large number of assignments, mid-term exams and final term exams with existing staff. Therefore, we change the paper pattern to MCQs. MCQs will be checked by computer and this way we will be able to serve the students. This change in exam pattern lead to the degradation of VU Degree. Now-a-days, we see that most students prepare MCQs from past papers and as a result pass the exam without or with much less effort. Even, many students just attend MCQs both in mid-term and final term exam and still manage to pass the subject (They don't do it with all subjects, just in some selective subject in which they feel too much difficulty).

Sir! Everyone knows that when there was long questions paper pattern, no one used to say that VU degree has low value. We did not hear any single such instance in which a VU student was said while applying for job that we don't accept VU Degree. We never heard of any instance in which some organization denied a VU student for internship. But now-a-days, we frequently hear about such instances.

MCQs paper pattern may be good with some theoretical subjects BUT MCQs paper pattern can never ever be a good paper pattern for subjects in which we need to solve numerical questions like Accounting, Statistics, Mathematics, Programming and many others. No one can become a better Accountant, Statistician, Mathematician or a programmer by just solving MCQs.

Sir, we see that admissions in VU are lowering from past two or three semesters. When, VU used to provide quality education then admissions in every semester were increasing. Now, they are lowering which indicates that VU education system has some fault in it.

Sir, I want to see VU at the same place where it was when there was long questions paper pattern An era when no one used to degrade VU. No one used to say that we don't offer jobs to VU students, no one used to say that we don't provide internship to VU students and so on.

Sir! MCQs paper pattern have some many faults in it. I mentioned some of them above. With MCQs paper pattern, many students get marks that they actually don't deserve. We even see that those students pass in exam that even don't know ABC of some particular subject in which they appear. They do it by just solving MCQs.

Sir, when there was long paper pattern, only those students passed the exam that used to study, but very sad to say that with this MCQs paper pattern, those students also pass who do not study.

Sir! You, me as well as every VU student will love to see VU's degree value much higher than what it is today. To do so, I think, VU should change the paper pattern to long questions in the upcoming semester. Not only change the paper pattern, but also change the mode of exam and exam timing. In long questions paper pattern, mid-term online exams was 1:30 hrs, final term 2:30 hrs, mid-term offline exam 1 hr, final-term offline exam 2:00 hrs.

Sir, I think that when No. of students increased too much in Fall 2008 semseter. Wrong step was taken by VU to change the exam paper. VU should have increased number of staff at that point.

Sir, it is my humble request to you to understand the reasons due to which VU's degree has low market value and then try your best to remove those reasons so that we can again see VU at the place where it was 3 or 4 years back when no one degraded VU.

Your Student

Muhammad Umair

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(Attock VU Group) Daily Qur'an & Hadith 27 Aug 2011 (26 Ramadan al Mubarak 1432) [2 Attachments]

English Translation of Al-Quran

[97]. Surah Al-Qadr [The Night of Decree]

Ayat 1. Verily! We have sent it (this Qur'an) down in the night of Al-Qadr (Decree)

Ayat 2. And what will make you know what the night of Al-Qadr (Decree) is?

Ayat 3. The night of Al-Qadr (Decree) is better than a thousand months (i.e. worshipping Allah in that night is better than worshipping Him a thousand months, i.e. 83 years and 4 months).

Ayat 4. Therein descend the angels and the Ruh [Jibrael (Gabriel)] by Allah's Permission with all Decrees,

Ayat 5. Peace! (All that night, there is Peace and Goodness from Allah to His believing slaves) until the appearance of dawn.

The Superiority of Lailat-ul-Qadr (the Night of Decree)

Allah, the Exalted, says: in Surah Al-Qadr "The Night of Al-Qadr (Decree) is better than a thousand months also in Surah Ad-Dukhan (44: Ayat 3-6) "We sent it (this Qur'an) down on a blessed night [(i.e., the Night of Al-Qadr, Surah No:97) in the month of Ramadan, the 9th month of the Islamic calendar].

English Translation of Hadith

Hazrat Aishah (May Allah be pleased with her) reported: I asked: "O Messenger of Allah

[SAWW](PBUH)! If I realize Lailat-ul-Qadr (Night of Decree), what should I supplicate in it?'' He

[SAWW](PBUH) replied, "You should supplicate: Allahumma innaka `afuwwun, tuhibbul-`afwa, fa`fu `anni (O Allah, You are Most Forgiving, and You love forgiveness; so forgive me).''

[At-Tirmidhi Hadith Number 3513].

Lesson : as mentioned above in Surah Qadr Ayat 3. "The night of Al-Qadr (Decree) is better than a thousand months." We learn from this Hadith that Although no specific sign of Lailat-ul-Qadr has been mentioned in the Ahadith, some eminent scholars have stated, on the basis of their own experiences and observation, that since angels descend on this night, one feels a peculiar tranquillity and peace of mind and one is overwhelmed with a unique tenderness of heart. The night is neither very hot nor very cold but a temperate one. Similarly, the sun that rises on the next day is also not very hot etc. etc. Allah knows the truth of the matter despite all that has been said in this regard. In any case, on this auspicious night every Muslim should earnestly pray to Allah for the forgiveness of his sins with reference to His Attribute of Forgiveness.

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