Friday, July 29, 2011

Re: (Attock VU Group) Future Abbreviation of VU

fall 2008 semester mein paper pattern change hooa tha tou us waqt protest is liay nahin keea tha new change thi aur kisi ko nahin maloom tha k is new change se hamari university itdni badnaam ho jaye gi...

aur vu k 3 hours k paper pattern se waqie standard maintain ho ga... 

mera aik sawal hai aap se... zera ghor se sun'na...

jab long paper pattern hota tha...tou kafi saray vu k subjects aisay thay, jinhain pass kar lena hi bahut bari baat hoti thi... A grade lena tou door ki baat...

here are some of them

Financial management (this was the subject which I considered the most difficult subject in VU)

research methods

statistics and probability

assembly language 
and many others too...

financial management ki baat karta hoon... is subject ka final term result (spring 2008) ka main nay dekha tha...highest marks thay 77, aur 71% students fail thay....


ab kitnay % fail hotay hain is subject mein ? shayad 20% bhi nah hotay hon.... kia us waqt k students thakay hooay thay aur aaj kal k students bahut extra ordinary ho gaye hain jo is subject mein A grade le letay hain ? I don't think so...

baqi subjects ki baat karta hoon...

main nay vu mein aisay aisay students bhi dekhay hain jinhain mth101 aur mth301 k course k basic cheezain derivatives aur integrals compute karna nahin aatay...par woh phir bhi in 2 subjects ko pass kar letay hain past papers aur mcqs dekh kar.... jab long paper pattern hota tha tou tab bhi past papers mil jatay thay...par us waqt aisay nahin hota tha k jisay alif bay nah aati ho subject ki aur woh pass hooa ho... ab hota hai aisa...

aur haan... baqi universities k past papers mil jatay hain.... but at least un k past papers mein lengthy questions hotay hain..... jinhain karnay k liay parhna parta hai... accounting, maths, aur programming k past questions k rattay nahin lag saktay.... masla yeh hai k hamaray mcqs k rattay lag saktay hain....





On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:03 PM, bc090200684 Munazzah Mehak Anjum <bc090200684@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
fall 2008 mai jub pattern change howa tha tb protest kia tha??...
agr us waqt protest nahi kia tha tu ab ap koi haq nahi rakhtay vu ko degrade krnay ka....

n m not getting ur point ... VU 3 hrs ka paper rakh de tu standard maintain hojaye ga??... if so than i'll say..wht a childish thought... quality examination is not assessed on duration of exam its depend questions asked... 

apko mostly universities ka exam pattern maloom hai??... lets take an example of bahria university... all of their student studies local author books with 10-15 lessons... after every 4-5 lessons hourly liye jatay hain means one hour duration exam... n than final... dont u find it similar to schools' monthly tests??... their students never claims that our university is making us duffer or something... than y v r doing this... ???


On 29 July 2011 14:40, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
aap ki information k liay.... vu thaki hooi university is liay nahin bani k online mode hooa paper ka... fall 2008 semester tak offfline papers bhi hotay thay aur online bhi... masla yeh hooa k fall 2008 semester se mid term k online papers 1 hour, aur final term k online papers 2 ghantay k ho gaye.... is se pehlay online papers mid term k 1:30 hrs aur final term k 2:30 hrs k hotay thay....


aur aap ki information se izafa kar doon...

vu walon nay paper pattern kyun change keea tha fall 2008 mein...

woh is liay k 14,000 admission ho gaye thay...

vu walon nay socha k hamara staff kam hai...itnay papers kon check karay ga... vu walon nay socha k chalo MCQs wala paper pattern kar detay hain.... MCQs computer check kar le ga.... hamara kaam bhi chalta rahay ga...

yeh hai vu ki asliat...







On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:43 PM, bc090200684 Munazzah Mehak Anjum <bc090200684@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
jahan VU appriciation deserve krti hai agr hum wahan usay appriciate nahi krty tu jahan criticism deserve krti hai wahan criticize b matt karain... 2002 se VU online education provide kr rhi hai or agr apko current affairs se thora bht lagao ho tu ye maloom hoga k india jis ka literacy rate pakistan se kaheen zayada hai abhi last week hi wahan first online university ka iftatah kia gaya hai... kabhi is k liye VU ko appriciate kia??...

fall 2008 se ye sb start howa... cuz initially VU mai b physically paper liye jatay thay... pattern online kia gaya jo k students ki samajh se bala tar guzra or jub wo labor market mai pohnchay tu UN STUDENTS ne aisa image create kia k aj humay hurdles bardasht krnay party hain,,,

wohi sahi hota k jub VU b sirf cream students ko admission deti... 70-80% pr admissions close kiye jatay wohi students jub 3.9 or 4 gp le kr job markets mai aaty tu labor market mai bhi naam hota or student ussi institution ko criticize b na kr rhy hoty jis se unko degree milni hai... 


On 29 July 2011 12:15, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
Munazzah sahiba... main vu ko criticize karta hoon tou VU deserve karti hai aisa...

achha, aap aik baat batao.. woh kia reasons hain k vu k students ko kafi baar aap nay suna ho ga... k organizations internships nahin deteen...jobs k liay kaha jata hai k ham vu ki degree accept nahin kartay... etc. etc..

aap batao, is ka kia reason hai?

Fall 2008 semester tak bhi yehi VU thi.... us waqt tak hamaray samnay koi aisa incident samnay nahin aaya tha....aisay incidents us k baad se aana shuroo hooay?

kia reason hai is ka?


On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM, bc090200684 Munazzah Mehak Anjum <bc090200684@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
umair ap vu ko bohatttttttt criticize krtay hain have ever done something for the betterment of university???......

y dont u guyz understand its an online university... y do u compare ur degree with other universities??... firstly dosri universities se humara koi comparison hi nahi hai cuz dosri universities distant learning ka option provide nahi krtieen... secondly i ve searched many international online universities or humara course standard un se kaheen behtr hai... but still before criticizing or comparing vu with other universities keep in mind that VU IS AN ONLINE UNIVERSITY... !!!!!!!!!!!!! or criticize tb hi karain jub apko lagy k ap k criticism se kuch positive ho sakta hai... warna kisi ko kuch bolnay ka haq nahi hai...!!


On 29 July 2011 09:55, Muhammad Umair <muhammad.umair.491@gmail.com> wrote:
main bhi yaheen hoon....dekh lain gay kia banta hai vu ka....


On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:53 AM, bc100200146 Usman Naveed <bc100200146@vu.edu.pk> wrote:
AOA .bhia feee ka kisi na zikr nhi kia ka fee increase hoi hn or inAllah es bar dakna na VU mein 50000 studnet ho ga kyn ka vu na BS.edu suru krna ha or ya jo vu pr tanqeed kr raha ha hn ya kud haqa baqa rah jayan ga or ya jo kaha raha han ka vu waren ho jaya gi to en ka mun pr tamca para ga tum dakna .fee inscrease honi ki waja sa kam admission hoan hn .lakin vu ka future bohit bright ha 

On 28 July 2011 09:58, mc100202889 Farooq Ahmad <mc100202889@vu.edu.pk> wrote:



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